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IBMJunkman

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LM465 bleed?
« on: January 23, 2018, 02:35:16 PM »
Does the LM465 require bleed current to work? A LED I have plugged into a LM465 slowly pulsates.

Will an appliance module work better as it can apparently control fluorescent bulbs?

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2018, 03:10:33 PM »
The LM465 uses a small sense current for local control - being able to turn the module on locally by just cycling the lamp switch.  Most LED lights need so little current that the small sense current is enough to make them glow or pulsate.

The appliance module also uses a sense current for local control and to determine what state its relay is in.

Recently X10 redesigned their lamp and appliance modules to use a lower sense current to make them more compatible with CFL and LED lights.

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Brian H

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2018, 03:22:13 PM »
If the Appliance module is one of the newer CFL Friendly ones.
It should  work much better.
As pointed out. It still has to have the ratchet switch on or off sensor but that is much smaller than the older ones.

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 09:38:17 PM »
Is the PLM04 the newer lamp module?

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2018, 07:12:32 AM »
Is the PLM04 the newer lamp module?

From the X10 website, it looks like the PLM04 is the newer version.

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2018, 03:18:20 AM »
Looked at the PLM04 users instruction sheet.
The web page didn't indicate it but Local Control sensing was mentioned as disabled.
It also has AGC.

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 07:32:07 PM »
Well, installed PLM04 and a new model CREE 100 watt bulb.  No pulsing.  I can confirm Local Comtrol sensing does not work.

And, FWIW I have a 3 bulb outside light setup (no X10 hardware) with 2 GE cylinder style LED. When I used a Walmart LED in the 3rd fixture they would all pulsate. Replaced WalMart bulb with a first generation CREE 60 watt and the pulsing stopped.

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2018, 06:31:11 AM »
Well, installed PLM04 and a new model CREE 100 watt bulb.  No pulsing.

Thank you for the update.

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Re: LM465 bleed?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 04:11:09 PM »
Thank you for the added information.
I am glad you found a solution.

 

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