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Max44

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WiFi Controller?
« on: March 26, 2014, 12:43:57 PM »

I've always thought with WiFi thermostats, garage door openers, printers, TVs, and now even light bulbs that a X-10 controller with a direct WiFi connection (and a tablet app) should be available.  Is there any such thing on the market?  Everything I've seen to date requires using a wired PC connection (RS232, USB, etc.) to the power line via some type of modem or a RF (non-WiFi) link to a RF transceiver plugged into the power line.

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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 03:17:08 PM »
Word on the street is that one is in the pipeline.

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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 03:50:31 PM »
Would be nice if this WiFi transceiver would lead to WiFi based Lamp, Appliance, and Switch modules. WiFi would be more reliable than PLC I think. My XTBIIR repeater has made our setup 95% solid, but once in a while I plug in something that upsets the delicate balance and have to search out the noise maker, since as an old geezer, I don't remember the new gizmo I plugged in yesterday. Unfortunately OGS (Old Geezer Syndrome) is not covered under Obamacare
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2014, 04:15:28 PM »
One is indeed in the works. ;)
I've got my name one a test sample for when it is available so I'll try to keep everyone informed.
Details right now are a bit sketchy as a prototype isn't available yet.
Word is it will directly address x10 modules via PLC no PC required with RF to be added later.
I'm told first runs will be limited in their ability but plans are to make them upgradable.
The manufacture has been sent suggestions put forth but x10 forum members ( http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=28628.0 ).
This may push back the release depending on how many suggestions they plan to add initially ;)
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 07:13:26 AM »
Tuicemen,

Thanks.  I read through the x10 forum link.  Interesting news.  I'll look forward to your review of the prototype ... whenever you get your hands on one.

Max

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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 07:19:06 AM »

Dave,

You might be interested in Belkin's WeMo products.  http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/c/home-automation/  I thought they were rather expensive compared to X-10.

Max

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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 04:30:16 PM »
Thanks Max.
I agree, the Belkin stuff is over my budget.
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 05:18:02 AM »

Dave,

You might be interested in Belkin's WeMo products.  http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/c/home-automation/  I thought they were rather expensive compared to X-10.

Max

I just noticed my local Home Depot store carries these.
I picked up an appliance module to play with.
I'm not to impressed with the android software interface.
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2014, 09:43:21 AM »

I just noticed a controller that's got WiFi and supposedly supports Z-wave, Insteon, and X10.  http://getvera.com/controllers/vera3/.  It doesn't seem to have gotten very good reviews ..... mostly from lack of support and poor documentation.  Seems like an interesting device if it works.

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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2014, 03:08:57 PM »
Vera was originally for Zwave only I believe.
There was a user on the x10 forums that had raved about it and moved their setup from X10 to it.
However I had noticed they returned to using X10 with no explanation given ??? ::)
They also deleted all their posts touting Vera  and editing their original post to just a head banging smiley :-\
 
I don't expect the X10 WiFi unit to be near as expensive but it also will most likely be only for x10 module communication.
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 10:39:14 AM »
I was able to get so more inside info on the new X10 Wi-Fi module (WIFI2X10).
I posted the info on the x10 forum  ;)
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2015, 04:15:35 PM »
I now have a Wi-Fi to x10 prototype module as posted on the X10 forum.
The unit performs very well even in noisy situations.
I approached Jeff about a XTBM signal analyzer for more in depth testing.
Authinx has asked that I hold off posting a review until a release version is actually ready which I have agreed to.
I can say the issue with release is not the hardware though I have made some suggestions for hardware improvement which we may or may not see in the first version.
I was told my test version would not have RF capabilities however it does receive RF and transceive it.
I hope the release version also has this, though one of the other testers has reported no RF capabilities in their unit ??? ::)
I will post a review of the unit on this forum as well as mine and the x10 forum once a release build is ready.
So far it (the hardware) has a Big thumbs up and only needs minor tweaking.
The software on the other hand is far from ready and the sad part is it doesn't look like the software designer has any idea of home automation.
I've submitted over 20 issues which I feel the end user would find fault with.
I've also submitted  many Ideas for Add improvements.
Since I only just discovered this had RF transceive capabilities I expect my suggestion list for enhancements to grow considerably.
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2015, 07:13:07 AM »
I had hoped to see these available for Christmas 2015 however it now looks like we'll be lucky to get one before new years.
The good news is the owner plans to fly a shipment in as soon as possible so the diehards can get them sooner.
He also plans to offer a promotional code to X10 Forum users.
So if your looking for one get, over there and put your name on one
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=29322.0
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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2016, 12:17:48 PM »
Like most I've been hoping to see this long before now.
A chip discontinuation and developer issues have delayed this.
However a new chip and developer have this looking better then before.
There are still some issues with the software which they hope to have ironed out shortly.
There is rumors of a $15 off discount being offered to X10 forum members that have their name on one.
I still don't expect to see this offered before mid May 2016.  :'(

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Re: WiFi Controller?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2016, 12:58:05 PM »
It's now almost Dec. 2016. Is there a legitimate estimate from X10 as to when the wifi module will be available? Are they still working on it? Does it have any priority?

 

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