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RF Control => Wi-Fi => Topic started by: Max44 on March 26, 2014, 12:43:57 PM

Title: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Max44 on March 26, 2014, 12:43:57 PM

I've always thought with WiFi thermostats, garage door openers, printers, TVs, and now even light bulbs that a X-10 controller with a direct WiFi connection (and a tablet app) should be available.  Is there any such thing on the market?  Everything I've seen to date requires using a wired PC connection (RS232, USB, etc.) to the power line via some type of modem or a RF (non-WiFi) link to a RF transceiver plugged into the power line.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Knightrider on March 26, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Word on the street is that one is in the pipeline.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: dave w on March 26, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
Would be nice if this WiFi transceiver would lead to WiFi based Lamp, Appliance, and Switch modules. WiFi would be more reliable than PLC I think. My XTBIIR repeater has made our setup 95% solid, but once in a while I plug in something that upsets the delicate balance and have to search out the noise maker, since as an old geezer, I don't remember the new gizmo I plugged in yesterday. Unfortunately OGS (Old Geezer Syndrome) is not covered under Obamacare
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on March 26, 2014, 04:15:28 PM
One is indeed in the works. ;)
I've got my name one a test sample for when it is available so I'll try to keep everyone informed.
Details right now are a bit sketchy as a prototype isn't available yet.
Word is it will directly address x10 modules via PLC no PC required with RF to be added later.
I'm told first runs will be limited in their ability but plans are to make them upgradable.
The manufacture has been sent suggestions put forth but x10 forum members ( http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=28628.0 ).
This may push back the release depending on how many suggestions they plan to add initially ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Max44 on March 27, 2014, 07:13:26 AM
Tuicemen,

Thanks.  I read through the x10 forum link.  Interesting news.  I'll look forward to your review of the prototype ... whenever you get your hands on one.

Max
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Max44 on March 27, 2014, 07:19:06 AM

Dave,

You might be interested in Belkin's WeMo products.  http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/c/home-automation/ (http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/c/home-automation/)  I thought they were rather expensive compared to X-10.

Max
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: dave w on March 27, 2014, 04:30:16 PM
Thanks Max.
I agree, the Belkin stuff is over my budget.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on March 28, 2014, 05:18:02 AM

Dave,

You might be interested in Belkin's WeMo products.  http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/c/home-automation/ (http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/c/home-automation/)  I thought they were rather expensive compared to X-10.

Max

I just noticed my local Home Depot store carries these.
I picked up an appliance module to play with.
I'm not to impressed with the android software interface.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Max44 on April 11, 2014, 09:43:21 AM

I just noticed a controller that's got WiFi and supposedly supports Z-wave, Insteon, and X10.  http://getvera.com/controllers/vera3/ (http://getvera.com/controllers/vera3/).  It doesn't seem to have gotten very good reviews ..... mostly from lack of support and poor documentation.  Seems like an interesting device if it works.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on April 11, 2014, 03:08:57 PM
Vera was originally for Zwave only I believe.
There was a user on the x10 forums that had raved about it and moved their setup from X10 to it.
However I had noticed they returned to using X10 with no explanation given ??? ::)
They also deleted all their posts touting Vera  and editing their original post to just a head banging smiley :-\
 
I don't expect the X10 WiFi unit to be near as expensive but it also will most likely be only for x10 module communication.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on April 14, 2014, 10:39:14 AM
I was able to get so more inside info on the new X10 Wi-Fi module (WIFI2X10).
I posted the info on the x10 forum (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=28628.msg161121#msg161121)  ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on September 09, 2015, 04:15:35 PM
I now have a Wi-Fi to x10 prototype module as posted on the X10 forum.
The unit performs very well even in noisy situations.
I approached Jeff about a XTBM signal analyzer for more in depth testing.
Authinx has asked that I hold off posting a review until a release version is actually ready which I have agreed to.
I can say the issue with release is not the hardware though I have made some suggestions for hardware improvement which we may or may not see in the first version.
I was told my test version would not have RF capabilities however it does receive RF and transceive it.
I hope the release version also has this, though one of the other testers has reported no RF capabilities in their unit ??? ::)
I will post a review of the unit on this forum as well as mine and the x10 forum once a release build is ready.
So far it (the hardware) has a Big thumbs up and only needs minor tweaking.
The software on the other hand is far from ready and the sad part is it doesn't look like the software designer has any idea of home automation.
I've submitted over 20 issues which I feel the end user would find fault with.
I've also submitted  many Ideas for Add improvements.
Since I only just discovered this had RF transceive capabilities I expect my suggestion list for enhancements to grow considerably.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on December 18, 2015, 07:13:07 AM
I had hoped to see these available for Christmas 2015 however it now looks like we'll be lucky to get one before new years.
The good news is the owner plans to fly a shipment in as soon as possible so the diehards can get them sooner.
He also plans to offer a promotional code to X10 Forum users.
So if your looking for one get, over there and put your name on one
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=29322.0
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on April 20, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
Like most I've been hoping to see this long before now.
A chip discontinuation and developer issues have delayed this.
However a new chip and developer have this looking better then before.
There are still some issues with the software which they hope to have ironed out shortly.
There is rumors of a $15 off discount being offered to X10 forum members that have their name on one.
I still don't expect to see this offered before mid May 2016.  :'(

Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: jackbeck on November 27, 2016, 12:58:05 PM
It's now almost Dec. 2016. Is there a legitimate estimate from X10 as to when the wifi module will be available? Are they still working on it? Does it have any priority?
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Brian H on November 28, 2016, 03:15:36 AM
I have not seen a legitimate estimated date in the threads over on the X10 forums.
I understand they are still perusing the project and see updates from time to time.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on November 29, 2016, 07:13:03 AM
If they haven't started production, then they'll probably have to source components again as logic/comm chips seem to be changing very rapidly.  In the time that this device has been in the works, the ESP team (ESP8266 etc) has released and deprecated several very useful chips.  I don't know what the X10 guys are using, but it's possible they'd have issues with part availability if the design is tied to a specific chip rather than something more flexible.   ???
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on November 30, 2016, 06:38:54 AM
It's now almost Dec. 2016. Is there a legitimate estimate from X10 as to when the wifi module will be available? Are they still working on it? Does it have any priority?

I haven't seen any progress report recently.  With Apple now entering the home automation market, I'm afraid that Authinx may be missing the window to get this to the market.

Back in the 80's several of us developed the Powerstar computer game cartridge for the Atari computer.  Development took too long, and disks were just coming into general use when it was released.  Disks were cheaper, and we lost our shirts on the project.

Jeff
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on November 30, 2016, 08:00:50 AM
If you still have any, you could maybe buy a few shirts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerstar-Atari-400-800-home-computer-cartridge-adventure-game-Pandora-Software-/361445328519
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on November 30, 2016, 09:23:21 AM
If you still have any, you could maybe buy a few shirts.

Yeah, they show up occasionally on eBay as collector items.  We only made about 600 cartridges that cost us about $10 each.  I have maybe 50 of them left in a box somewhere.  Of course, making them available would kill the price.

I was pretty proud of what we did for data compaction to fit over 200 screens like you see in that listing into a 16KB cartridge.  Each image was built up from graphic objects, and the budget for all the graphics was only 4KB.  (Yes, 4096 bytes.)  It was a different world back then.

The source code was so large that we had a to use a program to strip off the comments before we could do the assembly.  It took us about a year of nights and weekends to complete the project.

Jeff
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on December 01, 2016, 08:01:59 AM
Yeah, they show up occasionally on eBay as collector items.  We only made about 600 cartridges that cost us about $10 each.  I have maybe 50 of them left in a box somewhere.  Of course, making them available would kill the price.

LOL, you could single handedly flood the market and kill an industry.  Kinda like if people knew how many diamonds were available in the world they wouldn't pay anything for them.   ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on December 01, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
I contacted the Authinx owner directly on this just recently.
He is so frustrated with the manufacturer and app developer.
He said," he won't comment on a timeline as every time he does that they fly right past it.
It definitely won't be this year and doesn't expect it before the Chinese new year."
So no good news on this front I'm afraid. :(
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: jackbeck on December 02, 2016, 11:21:02 AM
Thanks for checking into this. At least it sounds like they are still working on this. When is the Chinese new year?
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Brian H on December 04, 2016, 06:31:02 AM
Chinese New Year. Sometime in mid January. At least a week time period. Maybe even longer.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: jackbeck on March 28, 2017, 07:40:14 AM
Looks like they missed the Chinese New Year. Anything new?
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Brian H on March 28, 2017, 10:20:18 AM
No added information in the X10 Forums very long thread either.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=28628.0
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on March 28, 2017, 11:26:46 AM
The factory shuts down for the full month of February for the new year.
Authinx was promised a production version a week ago however I know that promise wasn't met.
We can only hope it comes soon.
I've been told a extra unit was asked for so I could put it threw a work out as well.
If I'll see one is any ones guess but if I do I'll be sure to post.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: jackbeck on March 29, 2017, 08:06:00 AM
Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2017, 03:40:04 PM
The way this has stretched out, I wonder if that company in China is just stringing Authinx along taking their money, but never intending to deliver anything that really works.  Back at the lab a project like this would be done within 6 months.

Jeff
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on March 29, 2017, 05:47:12 PM
I had mentioned my same suspicions to Authinx prior to Christmas.
the amount of time and money that has went into this doesn't look like if it ever materializes that it will be a inexpensive device
:(
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on April 03, 2017, 09:11:41 AM
Especially if they only sell 100 to the people who have indicated interest here (those that still care).  Each one will cost $1000 just to cover expenses!
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on April 05, 2017, 05:50:43 AM
I just received an email from the Authinx Owner on this.
He stated they didn't expect to recoup their investment any time soon if at all?
The manufacture is still dragging this out stating they are now testing with the newly designed software and expect a release version available shortly. 
I wish I had better news but will continue to keep everyone updated.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on April 05, 2017, 08:20:19 AM
newly designed software

Wasn't that the stuff that was designed after the LAST Chinese new year?   :o
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on April 05, 2017, 01:05:27 PM
They have actually gone through several designers (developers).
The last device shipped to Authinx for testing wouldn't stay connected to Wi-Fi (that was a year ago I believe)
I told them I thought the Manufacture was stalling and dragging things out.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: IBMJunkman on April 09, 2017, 06:49:38 AM
Sounds like the project was time and materials based :)

Watching a story about Liftmaster door openers and their Smartphone app made me think about an X10 Smartphone app. Sorry to see WiFi is not going well.

Tuiceman, you are consistent. :) I hate to be a grammar nazi but...

Threw is past tense of throw.

Through is the word you want. An informal version is thru.

Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on April 11, 2017, 07:07:37 AM
thanks for pointing that out,
I very often fail to check posts for grammar prior to posting. ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on June 16, 2017, 05:59:51 AM
I got some encouraging news on the Wi-Fi module hub the other day.
the latest prototype has gone through in house testing with every few issues.
All of which appear to be software issues.
The Good news is they finally have a developer that understands X10 and what Authinx is trying to do.

They need to compare results to a real world environment however they only have the one prototype which was hand made.
Another is being made to confirm testing results.
Hopefully this won't take to long to put together.
I suspect once these latest issues are worked out with the developer an initial production run will occur.
If you snag one you'll be a beta tester. ;)
The current software is only for androids and a smart phone is required to set up the hub.

Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2017, 05:51:41 AM
That sounds encouraging.  Hopefully it will be ready for the Christmas shopping season.

Jeff
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on August 30, 2017, 08:27:03 AM
That sounds encouraging.  Hopefully it will be ready for the Christmas shopping season.

Jeff

Oh, I'm sure it will be.  But I don't know what year that will be.   :o
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on August 31, 2017, 06:49:28 AM
LOL,
I found out some discouraging news last time I inquired about the new Wijit app which is junk.
It seems the same developer that is putting together the X10 app put that together.

Knowing this I would have thought the Wijit app would have at least been up to par with the last x10 app I tested for the first proto type. It wasn't even close!
I just hope the app doesn't reveal issues with the hardware.

Right now I'm using the Broadlink RM Pro for X10 Wi-Fi to RF and IR control it works flawless so far
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Brian H on September 01, 2017, 03:28:30 AM
By the time their Wi-Fi module finally hits the market, if ever.
Many of the X10 enthusiasts will be already using the Broadlink RM.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on September 01, 2017, 05:37:14 AM
True, however there are some draw backs to the Broadlink.
You still need a transceiver to place the signal on the power line.
There is no macro possibilities but a cm15 will over come that.
Timers are possible but no dusk dawn settings,though I haven't played to much with timers as my cm15 handles them

I doubt that Authinx can compete with the price point of the Broadlink RM Pro. However if the final release also includes RF capabilities it will be more attractive.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tony Olson on September 03, 2017, 06:21:02 AM
What do you think the odds are in hooking up to Alexa and becoming an Authinx skill?



Tony

Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on September 03, 2017, 07:31:35 AM
What do you think the odds are in hooking up to Alexa and becoming an Authinx skill?
The odds of the x10 hub being able to be controlled via Alexa are very good if the hub ever becomes a reality.
The chances of an official Authinx skill are possible (but unlikely)

I continue to pressure the owner of Authinx for the protocol but his requests to the manufacturer on this go unanswered. :(
Given that the manufacture is currently set against releasing the protocol it may take for a third some time before we see any Alexa skill for it, but I'm hopeful.
Being that this is Wi-Fi an amateur programmer will be able to sniff out it's required calls with wireshark.
I suspect we'll see a skill from a Third party first. ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on September 07, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
I just got a bit of sad news which may slow the release of an Alexa skill from a third party and even a third party APP.
There will be no SDK  for the X10 hub!
Due to the agreement between the developer and the manufacture this will be to costly to provide.

I'm still hopeful the manufacturer will supply the Wi-Fi GET/POST commands though.

Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on September 12, 2017, 08:25:17 AM
Honestly at this point, I'm not all that interested in the device.  If it had come out 3 years ago, I would have probably jumped on it, but there's too many other options out there.  Especially seeing the price point for their Wijit stuff (low feature set, higher price than comparable products), I assume the hub will be more costly and lower capability than other solutions.  Add to that the lack of any external interface via an SDK and this is basically a no go for me.  Sad IMO, but that's what I'm expecting.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on September 13, 2017, 05:32:02 AM
Honestly at this point, I'm not all that interested in the device.  If it had come out 3 years ago, I would have probably jumped on it, but there's too many other options out there.  Especially seeing the price point for their Wijit stuff (low feature set, higher price than comparable products), I assume the hub will be more costly and lower capability than other solutions.  Add to that the lack of any external interface via an SDK and this is basically a no go for me.  Sad IMO, but that's what I'm expecting.
I feel the same there will be far fewer users that jump on this then would have originally.
Authinx's plan was for this to be an entry level Hub with an advanced version to follow.
However I suspect interest will be so low in this that they'll abandon the advance version. :(
The SDK isn't a big deal for me as it would have be for Android.
The protocol is  more important however web calls and replies can be sniffed out so even without that one will be able to create a third party app (if they wished).
I suspect this Hub will not provide much to interest diehard users. However I have requested the ability for it to talk to other Hubs via Wi-Fi be added. If they implement that (which shouldn't be to difficult) then it will help one tie into other possible HA devices.

I've been using a couple Wijit modules for a few months now and really like them.
I don't use the Wijit Hub nor the app though. My Broadlink RM Pro (https://www.amazon.com/BroadLink-Automation-Universal-Compatible-Smartphones/dp/B0742CXGHY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1505305460&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=broadlink+RM+pro&psc=1) & IHC app controls these, X10 and IR devices.
The Broadlinks can be found for well under $50 and I don't expect the X10 Hub to be that inexpensive nor as versatile. ;)

 
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tony Olson on September 13, 2017, 06:56:04 AM
Tuicemen just a general question... I assume Authinx wants to sell X10 hardware in the future so how would the CM15a et al fit into this equation? Does the apps being designed now include creation, update and reporting  for all files?

Thanks.

Tony Olson
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on September 13, 2017, 10:35:32 AM
The cm15 sends and receives all x10 RF and PLC signals so anything sent with the X10 Wi-Fi hub or the Broadlink will be seen.  Since the broadlink is just Wi-Fi to RF it wouldn't see any X10 activity, the X10 Hub originally was to be Wi-Fi to PLC (just send PLC). I informed Authinix it needed to see PLC to avoid collisions and users needed to see x10 devices status which may have been turned on/off from other possible x10 PLC signals.

So the CM15 for the time being will remain the power house being able to see RF and fire macros from a RF or PLC trigger  which the Hub can't.
The HUB app currently being designed I'm told will be able to do timers and simple macros it will not talk directly to the Cm15 other then with X10 PLC signals. Meaning a macro stored in the cm15 will be able to be triggered with the hub only if the macro trigger is a PLC signal.
The Manufacture nor the app developer has any info regarding the inner workings of the cm15. :(
 
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tony Olson on September 13, 2017, 11:51:54 AM
Thanks Tuicemen that helps a lot.

Tony
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on October 26, 2017, 08:00:55 AM
I have been given limited access to the developers web site in hopes I can give some feed back.
They apparently have a IOS app version ready with timers and dusk dawn options.
I've done threw some of the last few builds history and don't see mention of macros or extended commands being added.
Since I don't have an iPhone or iPad I can't look over the app :(
Authinx is doing some in house testing with the new App and module as the developer wants to code both Android and IOS at the same time with any fixes or add which may be needed.
Hopefully all goes well and this is the year we'll see the Wi-Fi hub available for Christmas ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2017, 06:23:47 AM
Hopefully all goes well and this is the year we'll see the Wi-Fi hub available for Christmas ;)

That is certainly good news.

Jeff
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on October 27, 2017, 07:28:26 AM
I've asked to be updated on Authinx's in house testing and ask for some specific testing be done to see if extended commands were actually coded for things like the softstart preset dims.
I'm still hoping someone pops by with a IPhone so I can get a peak at the app.
The developers web site only has one screen shot and that is of the device group screen.
This is no different then previous Android builds.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 01, 2017, 07:41:01 AM
I've just been informed a new test unit is headed my way! :)
Though without the Android version of the new app I'll be unable to fully test.
I'm told they are fast tracking an Android version so hopefully by next week I can test both.  ;)

UpDate: The module arrived and I'm told an Android app should be ready for me by Friday
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on November 02, 2017, 06:08:31 AM
Great News!  Thanks for the update.

Jeff
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 02, 2017, 06:51:19 AM
I'll test with the old App today so I can refresh my memory as to what issues were there and see if they were in fact addressed once I have the new app. ;)

I read on the Smarthome forum today a post from another member that X10 Pro has a new controller to be released this year along with the one from Avion.
I wonder if they have a inside scoop better then mine (Authinx is X10 Pro).
They never mentioned what the X10 Pro controller was, but I'm thinking it is this one.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 03, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
Well looks like I won't get the android version of the app till next week! :(
I hope it is due to the bugs uncovered thus far in the iOS version.
I'm unable to use the old android app due to the new hardware ( maybe additional security too)
It uses a barcode for initial configuration which the app reads via the phones camera.
The old app sees the module but communication fails. :(
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 13, 2017, 07:05:52 AM
I did manage to get a hold of an iPhone for a few days and was able to do a bit of testing.
More info can be found on my site for this but the app still needs lots of work.:(
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 16, 2017, 10:50:00 AM
This morning I finally received an email with the android app.
I actually had it loaded and initial test ran, firmware updated and reported issues before the Authinx team even got their copies loaded.
Besides the same issues as the iOS build this has several other issues:(
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 20, 2017, 07:35:46 AM
The app testing is going well.
I'm having issues with softstart verses non. My XTBM Pro signal analyzer shows simple on/off dim commands and not extended code being set to the softstart yet those same commands fail to work with the non sofstart modules.
If I have another transceiver ( like the CM15 or security console) running at the same time the commands go through.
Since this is only a Wi-Fi to PLC another transceiver is required for RF to PLC the no softstart issue will not affect many.
I tested connection from my local art gallery and the app was extremely fast think they have a very fast router and internet connection.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Brian H on November 21, 2017, 03:09:54 AM
Thank you for keeping us updated on the progress of the unit and software.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 21, 2017, 08:25:48 AM
I believe this test unit to be a Release Candidate so I'm looking at ways to access it without the app.
In an attempt to get some type of communication protocol I've downloaded and installed Wireshark.
Sadly I've forgotten how to use this and the new interface is not even close to what I remember. :(
I've been able to find the IP and Port  of the HUB and calls to the HUB are seen as is the reply from it though I can't get past that. :(
I believe the HUB is looking for info contained in the QR code in order to make a connection.
Initially any smartphone that has the app still needs to scan the QR to connect may be it has a coded user& password.

Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 22, 2017, 09:45:20 AM
I've just been informed Authinx is moving forward with production of the WM100.
Hopefully the Apps will be relatively bug free before the first unit produced. ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on November 22, 2017, 10:28:20 AM
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but they've already missed the window for this holiday season so I guess it will be old hat by next Xmas.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on November 22, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
I'm told production will take about 2 weeks  so you should be able to order before the new years, well before next Christmas for sure. ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on December 01, 2017, 11:46:13 AM
I'm told a production run of 4 weeks has been scheduled to begin next week.
The Authinx owner has said he'll freight fly in a shipment as soon as some roll off the line.
He intends to offer these to those on the x10 forum that are interested by giving advanced notice of a sales page publication.
I guess they'll be the beta testers.;)
I never pressed for details as each time I do a delay happens. :(
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on December 19, 2017, 08:13:17 AM
If the controller were available for purchase today, 2 day shipping would still make it a viable xmas present!   ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on December 19, 2017, 02:31:39 PM
Well I don't see it being available to anyone before Christmas. :(
I just got the latest firmware update on the week end and the latest App today.
About 2/3 of the issues I previously reported were fixed and one small thing added.
I'm told they aren't going to focus on any more adds till after the release, just bugs, which is good.
However there is still one issue which causes the app to crash (that may be just my phone), the others are minor.

Overall the app and WM100 are currently, for the most part, performing well ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: bkenobi on December 20, 2017, 08:16:51 AM
We're almost at Chinese new year again though...
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on January 06, 2018, 07:23:01 AM
Authinx has a few production built units that the owner flew in, the rest are on a slow boat from China. So if you don't snag one of the first available units you WILL have to wait till after the Chinese new year!
The Initial release price is to be $99 US which I thought was a bit high until I started to compare other X10 offerings from other companies.
The current hold up with the release date is the Apple app approval process which can take up to a week baring no issues.
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on January 17, 2018, 11:26:36 AM
The unit is to go on sale Monday Jan 22nd and will be in the news letter if you signed up for one.
Users who opted in to a insider deal will be sent a special link for an advanced purchase option.
Hopefully those will be sent out before days end! ;)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Tuicemen on January 22, 2018, 03:25:36 PM
Jeff and i both have one of these production units now.
All I can say is they are worth the wait these are quality devices unlike previous X10 WTI distributed modules.
Jeff has done some testing and I understand has a look under the covers :)
Title: Re: WiFi Controller?
Post by: Jeff on January 23, 2018, 06:52:30 AM
Jeff has done some testing and I understand has a look under the covers :)

Yes, compared with prior devices produced by X10WTI, this is clearly a new era for X10.

Jeff